Pomegranate, persimmon, quince! WebTracy K. Smith is a contemporary American poet who is born in Massachusetts. the book in a spiritual key? Did writing your memoir indeed open up new space for that? The narrow untouched hips. But it also became a poem about reckoning with what it means to be alive in the 21st century. Life on Mars is pointed into the future as a way of reckoning with all of that, while Wade in the Water takes up history in a similar effort. This is so brilliant, this is such a clear idea. Articulating one would require thinking of others as more than free particles in a market or economic obstacles and opportunities. Can I get you to read An Old Story? You can read some of her poems on our website. I also agree. Tracy K. Smith: Well, I thought that this conversation about how incapable we as a nation are of having a conversation across political difference or racial difference, that motivated me to think about how poetry might be a kind of bridge. Mattan Masri- Week 16: Animation is not a Genre, Bella Furst Week 1 | Ranking Chicken and Why Chicken Nuggets are the Best, Bella Furst | Week 20 "The United States Welcomes You" by Tracy K. Smith, Bella Furst Week 4 | "Garden of Eden" by Tracy K. Smith. All of these fruits hold positive or affectionate connotations to their names, something she likely wished for after therapy (she earlier states she typically shops here almost exclusively after therapy). and settlement here. Our repeated Smith assembles a collage of bad news, omitting punctuation to create a sense of anxious acceleration: dust vented from factory chimneys settled well-beyond the property lineentered the water tableconcentration in drinking water 3x international safety limitstudy of workers linked exposure with prostate cancerworth $1 billion in annual profit. My poems strain for the kind of freedom to rise above Time on occasion, to see through it, to make use of what once (when I needed it) might have been invisible to me and what now (after the fact) can seem plain. I think in these most recent poems, Im trying to figure something out about the possibility of something like universal oneness. Innocence and privacy. Tracy K. Smith: I think about the incredible systematic and orderly attempts to negate black life throughout the history of this country, and then I think about the voices and the contributions to democracy that Blacks have offered, and those two things speak really powerfully to each other. She is a democratic writer, because her project in Wade in the Water is to curate American voices, particularly those of marginalized people, but also her own, and to situate these within the dark sweep of US history, with all its horrors, its anxieties, its potentialities. The opening poems of Wade in the Water seem to locate the divine in the worldly, sometimes to humorous effect: God drives around in a jeep, and the Garden of Eden turns out to be a grocery store. But the poet respectfully appropriates them, placing each within her linguistic universe, where things like line breaks and image patterns matter, and as such the erasure is partly undone. Livid, the land, and ravaged, like a rageful, Would survive ushow little we had mended, Large and old awoke. Tracy K. Smith: Right. In October, Graywolf Press will The author of four books of poems, she received the 2012 Pulitzer Prize in poetry. Once I have a body of realized poems that feels substantialsay, 30 or 40 pagesI start to hunt for the different things the poems seem to be saying to one another in an effort to decipher what is missing. Capitalism has made a nightmare world, and we can either resist its pressures or chill with our smartphones and wait for climate change to kill us.Along comes Tracy K. Smiths new book, Wade in the Water (Graywolf). Have your process and preoccupations changed? This is an essential book, one that should be required reading throughout the land. Tracy K. Smith: Mhmm, yeah. But it is as if he hears, A voice in our idling engines, calling himLithe, Swift, Prince of Creation. Both are longing for some kind of extra-human counterpoint to the real, the earthbound, the flawed, the finite. Then animals long believed gone crept down. Someone has likened it to the poem in my previous book called The Good Life which is about being so hungry, and having a job but not making enough money. The author is efficient in pointing out that the men that once wrote and fought for equality, were the same to enforce and bring upon laws that oppressed Do found texts youve worked with sometimes inform your subsequent writing? K Smith. the Declaration of Independence erasure). We often want more from life than is achievable and all-in-all, thats okay. Naomi Shihab Nye is the Young Peoples Poet Laureate of the Poetry Foundation in Chicago. According to the cultural theorist Mark Fisher, this mental architecture almost inevitablybarring unusual cultural circumstances or great personal fortitudetakes the form of capitalist realism, which consists in the widespread sense that not only is capitalism the only viable political and economic system, but also that it is now impossible even to imagine a coherent alternative to it (Fishers italics). What made you decide to use collage rather than writing something inspired by the archives? Like the letters themselves, Smiths poem is restorative. Jill: That's a really cool origin story. Its like having a best live-action award. Curtis Fox: So I wanted to ask you about your time as Poet Laureate, but before we get there, Id like to get straight to a poem. The glossy pastries! One quick way to define capitalism is to observe that it entails the dedication of all things, all human objects and ideas and actions, to profit, to the continual accumulation of wealth in private hands. And then I said well, why dont I just look at the Declaration of Independence and see what I can hear there? Curtis Fox: So thats the opening poem in your book, and as you said, its set in the early years of the century when the poet was more {innocence}, but there are hints that all is not well, and you write Everyone I knew was living / The same desolate luxury, / Each ashamed of the same things: / Innocence and privacy. But those things came out in this poem. Social media, this idea that if you have a life its only useful or only real if you can demonstrate it, I feel like the beginning of that frenzy or that appetite seems to line up in my mind with that period, yeah. I suppose those two choices speak to some of the overarching themes I consciously wanted the book to cleave to.WASHINGTON SQUARE: This last comment makes me wonder about your process assembling a book. Leaving therapy, she feels a profound longing for the grocery store, which becomes a sort of temple where spiritual and aesthetic desire mix (The glossy pastries! Whats going on there? And in this awful year, thats something worth giving thanks for. Why are we allowing industrialized transactional regimes that make us miserable to cook the planet alive? Consider, that is, the languages and practices we have developed to exist within Western consumer markets. In a 2016 interview for The Iowa Review, you commented, I never have figured out how to talk about race in my poetry in a way that feels authentic and organic, and Ordinary Light is a book in which Im thinking so much about race. Wade in the Water seems to engage this topic compellingly and with great assurance. Unlike a lot of other poets I was looking at, she has a certain flavor that just really fit to my taste. Email us at [emailprotected], or write a review in Apple Podcasts, and please link to this episode on social media. Terrible. I was blown away by how it seemed to capture the mood of our historical moment. MyHeart hammers at the ceiling, telling my tongueTo turn it down. Curtis Fox: Dr Hayden from the Library of Congress, right? Susanna Langs newest collection of poems,Travel Notes from the River Styx,was released in summer 2017 from Terrapin Books. I wanted to find a way of reminding myself that our 21st Century moment isnt self-contained; somewhere and somehow, it has bearing upon what happens moving forward throughout all of eternity, even after we humans are gone from this planet. I dont yet know how to classify Wade in the Water. I honestly really enjoyed this poem, particularly the ending clause. Did that effect the way that you thought about what you were going to do as Poet Laureate? Home on Earth - Review of Tracy K. Smith's "Wade in The Water" destroyed the lives of our Hi Tracy, thanks for coming on the podcast. I just feel that sometimes they strive more to be abstract rather than deliver a coherent message. SMITH: I think my strength is the image. The core of the book, because it was the poem I had written earliest in the process, always seemed to me to be the long Civil War poem, I Will Tell You the Truth About This, I Will Tell You All About It. That poem was commissioned for an exhibition of Civil War photographs at the Smithsonians National Portrait Gallery back in 2013. SMITH: For I Will Tell You the Truth About This I went in search of information about African American soldiers experience in the Civil War. Some do a lot, some very little. Its actually the last poem in your book. How do imaginative play and perhaps even humor figure in your process and your poetry right now? She studied at Harvard University, where she joined the Dark Room Collective, a reading series for writers of color, created by Sharan Strange in 1988. Curtis Fox: Its one of the curiosities of your book, that to grapple with this dawning century you go back into history with poems in the voices of the enslaved and powerless, and you also make interesting use of the Declaration of Independence. He has plundered our The analysis was to consist of identifying poetic devices and explaining how and why Tracy K. Smith used them. Jesus also loved the foolish, the pushy, the stubborn, the fickle. But if I do my job correctly, they slip away from that transparency and become something more than Id initially thought I was after. Its not that I dont like it because Ew, poetry, but rather because I just dont understand a majority of it. I also advise thesis students who are involved in producing book-length collections of poems. It teases us; it helps us sometimes, so that what is happening now feels like it has already occurred once before; it bridles adults and happily submits to being largely ignored by children. K Smith. Her latest book is Wade In The Water. 4 (September 2018), Emily Jungmin Yoon, Maya Marshall, RHINO Reviews Vol. After you read this poem by the former U.S. She was named Poet Laureate of the United States in June 2017 and reappointed to the post for a second term last spring. If we are moving through Time, I suspect Time is moving, too, though who knows where it is heading? How did the book come together and find its shape? And if you enjoy that, I highly recommend checking out Price and value, Smith reminds us, are not the same thing.In a recent lecture published by the Washington Post, she calls poetry a radically re-humanizing force, one that comes closest to bringing us into visceral proximity with the lives and plights of others. She contrasts it with the market-driven language that divides everything into a brutal war of all against all and debilitates our minds: I also, more and more, recognize its value as a remedy to the various things that have bombarded our lines of sight and our thought space, and that tamper with our ability or even our desire to listen to that deeply rooted part of ourselves. Tracy K. Smith: Sure. You pay attention because it wades in deep. Wade in the Water in particular enlists a whole chorus of voices, including historical ones resurrected almost verbatim in collages and erasures. Tracy K. Smith served as U.S. poet laureate from 2017-19 and teaches at Princeton University. Capitalism is the enemy and the stakes are high, because one of the only defenses against the degradations of our market-driven culture is to cleave to language that fosters humility, awareness of complexity, commitment to the lives of others and a resistance to the overly easy and the patently false.Embedded in all this is a specific conception of history. Copyright 2008 - 2023 . Because having them suggests a sense of unearned privilege? So I thought, what could I do? Wade in the Water by Tracy K Smith is published by Penguin (8.99). It wasnt until I found myself preoccupied with questions of love and faith that I figured out how I wanted to work with the source material of the article. The couplet looped in my head for weeks, and when I finally resorted to Google, I learned it was from Smiths first collection, The Bodys Question.I borrowed her books from the library and found them full of lines like the ones that had hooked me. Capital exerts its violence against nature and the people who are part of it. I'm glad you were able to find something to connect with! SMITH: I think of my four books of poems in similar terms: The Bodys Question feels to me like a coming-of-age story. Her translations of poetry by Yves Bonnefoy include Words in Stone and The Origin of Language. WebAnalyzes tracy k. smith's "life on mars" as an elegy as a whole with many poems pertaining to death and s struggle with the loss of her father. Her term will be up in April of 2019. They do a lot to remind us that we do have things to say to each other, that were interested in one anothers lives and vulnerabilities. How does Political Poem complement and converse with the books more overtly, explicitly political poems? From a handbasket filled Aside from that, I like your analysis of the poem. Her second collection is titled Duende, a Spanish word that eludes precise translation but denotes a quality of soulful artistic passion and inspiration; perhaps its this same quality that infuses her patiently lucid writing with visceral urgency, yielding lines that stick persistently in a readers heart and mind.Smith has written four poetry collections: The Body's Question, which won the Cave Canem Poetry Prize; Duende, which received the James Laughlin Award; Life on Mars, winner of the 2012 Pulitzer Prize for Poetry; and, most recently, Wade in the Water, published in April by Graywolf Press. For me, the memory of catching a poem in that fashion seeps into the sense of peace the poem contemplates, causing it to feel fleeting, like something it would be easy, if youre not working very deliberately, to lose.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Your poems have a habit of calling chronology into question. I watch him smile at nobody, at our trafficStopped to accommodate his slow going. I dreamt that I was in a hotel where there was a mural of that poem, which was by him, painted on a wall, and I was reading it aloud to somebody who was with me. I spent about 2 hours going through this list of poets trying to find someone that I could just understand and was pleasantly surprised to stumble upon Tracy. The final poem, An Old Story, exposes our tendency to destroy our own world by reminding us of the Biblical storm that drowned all life except for Noah, his family, and the pairs of animals he saved on his ark: After the storm, it is song that changes the weather, tempts the animals to come down from the trees where they had shelteredin an ark made of wood but not by us. That distinction gets complicated once you open the booksbut I wonder if you do see these collections as particularly complementing or speaking to each other? That seems to me not so much about privacy but about consumerism in some way. SMITH: I wanted to open the book by invoking a sense of the eternal, to start with a nod to that scale. Id squint into it, or close my eyes / And let it slam me in the face / The known sun setting / On the dawning century. Something flickers, not fleeing your face. Usually only after therapy Would you read it for us? WASHINGTON SQUARE: Your work notably embraces questioningboth via interrogatives and through other formulations that reject single, easy truths (e.g., New Road Station names four things history metaphorically isnt, along with at least three that it perhaps might be). WebThe assignment consisted of reading this newly published poem and then writing an analysis. I see it as my job to draw these things out, and offer the kinds of questions and observations that will help students move further into their strengths as writers, and to follow them toward an organic and genuine sense of their own deepening themes and questions. The Garden of Eden is a semiautobiographical account based on Hemingways honeymoon with his second wife, Pauline Pfeiffer, in May, 1927, at Le Grau-du-Roi, a fishing village in the Carmargue, on the Mediterranean coast of France. Thanks for listening. Title notwithstanding, the poem doesnt feel ostentatiously politicalcertainly not compared to some of its neighbors (e.g. Although the last section of the book includes poems with a similarly wide lens, Smith also evokes small moments with her children. My approach was to expand it, to maybe pull it apart and make it into a poem in different sections, and I looked through some of his letters, I looked through his will, and found through erasure different statements within those documents. This was the shattered promise of Reconstruction, which collapsed under the weight of reactionary white politics (and outright terrorism) by the late 1870s. Her There is deep unease in those lines that Ive been puzzling over, and why would somebody be ashamed of innocence and privacy? Poems are so great because they urge you to start thinking in honest and even vulnerable terms about your own life and your own experiences. But in other events, Ive gone into almost curated spaces, like rehab facilities or churches, or we have an upcoming trip that will take us to a retirement community. Register now and publish your best poems or read and bookmark your favorite popular famous poems. For Smith, this is a lavish shop that seems to be selling a very specific selection of goods. Tracy K. Smith, I hope your poem is a prophecy. What about you? The poem, titled Garden of Eden begins with Smith acknowledging a profound longing for her Garden of Eden, or moreover her personal paradise. Over her career, she has published a memoir and four books of poetry, including The glossy Thanks to her late father's job as an engineer on the Hubble Space Telescope, the US poet gathers inspiration from the same desolate luxury, people lived paycheck to paycheck, unable to afford such luxuries like exotic fruits or pastries. Curtis Fox: Being Poet Laureate is obviously an honor, but have you enjoyed it? She joins me now from Princeton University, where she teaches creative writing. Its a dire poem, tinged with hope, that out of the destruction of our century something new and fresh might reemerge. I know its a huge honor, and thats the first thing that I felt when Dr Hayden called me. I chose the title Watershed even before the poem itself had been written. The same desolate luxury, I didnt set out to write a found poem, but when I got far enough into that research, I understood that I didnt want to merely metabolize all of these other real voices and then speak something imagined or invented out in my own voice; rather, I wanted to make space for these very compelling voices to speak to a reader the ways they had spoken to me. NCTE, Common Core, & National Core Arts Standards. I think now, of course, I feel, and many of us feel differently about that. As Auden supposedly said in conversation, you cant half-read it. The poem, titled Garden of Eden begins with Smith acknowledging a profound longing for her Garden of Eden, or moreover her personal paradise. The collections final poem, An Old Story, also feels faintly Biblical. I wanted to draw-in the sense of the living spirit at the heart of that nights encounter, and at the heart of the tradition of the ring shout itself: the sense of love and deliverance, of faith and compassion, of justice and survival.Watershed was a poem I knew I wanted to write. Comprehending, and perhaps steering, its history requires love amid the ruins.Unrest in Baton Rouge underscores this. WebTracy K. Smith was born in Massachusetts and raised in northern California. God said everything that was in that garden they could use to Unlike a lot of other poets I was looking at, she has a certain flavor that just really fit to my taste. Like a lot. From trees. Can you tell us how you composed the poem Declaration? WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im also curious, hearing about how you created the found poemsare there any poets whose work has inspired or instructed you specifically in this domain of found/collaged poetry, or poetry that incorporates historical source documents?SMITH: I have taught CD Wrights One Big Self, in both the poetry and photography formats, to my students in the past. 1 No. That sometimes comes out in revision, as was the case with Ash. The poem was little more than a list of ideas until I was able to sit down and hear a set of rhythmic parameters begin to assert force. sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our, In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for. If capitalist institutions erase memory and sweep everything into an eternal present of consumption, poetry is a slow art with a long memory and an expansive capacity to imagine other worlds. Anyone can read what you share. Places where reading series and book festivals dont usually go. Even if the question animating the poem is a serious one, that sense of being lost in the pursuit is, inevitably, a happy thingit is about finding something that can constitute a productive path through or out of the matter at hand. Curtis Fox: This is Poetry Off The Shelf from The Poetry Foundation. The way you can break into laughter remembering something while at a funeral, say, and Bank-balance math and counting days. Capitalism, Fisher intones, is what is left when beliefs have collapsed at the level of ritual or symbolic elaboration, and all that is left is the consumer-spectator, trudging through the ruins and the relics.Is there any alternative to the morose conviction that nothing new can ever happen (Fisher again)? We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration WebMetal claws poised over a valley of rubber. For WebPoems, readings, poetry news and the entire 100-year archive of POETRY magazine. Capitalist realism is the language of the boardroom, the pop-up ad, the tax form, the PR statement, the subway banner, the chip-card reader, the medical bill, the Fidelity account. And sound helped me devise the poems exit strategy as well. I struggle a lot with interpreting metaphorical words often used by poets and underlying meanings behind small phrases. So I did that with this document, and what I found myself doing was deleting the text that was most specific in reference to England, and listening only to the first half, in many cases, of statements. The point of capitalism is to get more capital, which allows you to either procure stuff (things or experiences) or just hoard the lucre, deriving a weird pleasure from that. In the poem, Declaration , by Tracy K. Smith, the author is able to criticize a powerful document and bring to light the racial injustices in modern-day society. I think this is a poem thats about, okay, Im just past that, and look what I can almost afford. 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